305 mm disc of Seat Cupra to Mk2

benjaminpojr · Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:27 am Post subject: 305 mm disc of Seat Cupra to Mk2

Hi Everyone,

Need advice on brake upgrade, will the brake discs from a Seat Cupra fit into my Mk2 Syncro? is this possible? which size of tires will i use with these? thanks....

Andrew Ensom · Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 8:20 am Post subject:

If your syncro only has 239mm brakes at the moment you will need to get some late 16V hubs first.

I assume you mean the Cupra 'R' which has the Brembo 4 pots? It will all bolt straight on, but you need atleast 16" wheels. So wheel styles dont fit very well over the Brembo callipers, and you may need to use a spacer behind the wheels.

On a normal Cupra they just have the 280mm brakes the same as a G60, just painted red.

Russ_JDUB · Little Lupo Joined: 14 Nov 2002 Posts: 50

My mates got brembo's on his - u'll most definately require spacers for most wheels.

jason-p · Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 7:13 pm Post subject:

its the offset you need to look at ,my 16's on my ibiza won't fit around the caliper,much to my annoyance,they are available as a kit from badger5,look here. www.seatcupra.net.com .ask for bill brockbank he has some kits available i think,tell him i sent ya

ibiza gti 1.816v

Andrew Ensom · Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 7:47 pm Post subject:

I can supply the Seat Brembos for £375 delivered, includes everything but the flexible hoses.

atilla101uk · Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 3:06 pm Post subject:

When was the later spec disks for the mk2 done and if i have the early one would i need to upgrade to later spec hubs i have mk2 16v 88 - 89 and the kit thats been mentioned wuld i need to get a spacer for the caliper carrier is this the same thing have i answered my own questions am i stupid. lol. But if i get what your saying i could have 300mm+ brembo 4 pots for dirt cheap money (well considering the upgrade kit from demons is nearly a GRAND) and would these fit behind 17's no probs? cause i know you mentioned 16's does this mean they'll catch on the spokes or the inner rim if you can picture what i mean.

Altern8 · Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 3:31 pm Post subject:

try

www.badger5.co.uk they sell the seat brembo kits for a mk2

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Andrew Ensom · Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 4:46 pm Post subject:

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would i need to upgrade to later spec hubs i have mk2 16v 88 - 89

They changed at '89, if you have the early 239mm brakes you need new hubs, but if you have the later 256mm brakes you have the right hubs allready.

The only problems is with it catching the back of the spokes on some wheels, so if you do have problems you will just have to fit a spacer behind the wheels.

atilla101uk · Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2002 8:45 pm Post subject:

cheers ppl

atilla101uk · Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 3:27 pm Post subject:

Is it easy to change the hubs over, do I need to change anything else when I do it (obviously I'd change the bearings) but anything like driveshafts etc. Also does anyone know anywhere that sells the hubs new? or would it be scrappy time, and if this is so does anyone know where I can get them refurb'd cause I dont wanna pay VW prices.

I know I'm starting to sound like a pain in the arse now.

Andrew Ensom · Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:08 am Post subject:

It is allways a good idea to change the wheel bearings, and bottom ball joints whilst the hubs are off the car, to save taking it all off again in the near future.

It is also simplest to undo the ball joint off the wishbone, rather than trying to get the ball joint out of the hub. But you need to mark the position of the ball joint on the wishbone, so you get it back in the right place otherwise you will mess up the camber, aswell as driveshaft length.

You dont need to change driveshafts or anything like that, the other hubs will go straight on.

If you are going to do it yourself you will need a few descent tools, as you need to undo the hub nut on the end of the driveshaft, and its done upto about 170 lbf ft, so you will really need a breaker bar, as you will possibly strip the teeth out of a ratchet with a bit of tubing on it.

Usually takes my full weight standing on the end of 2ft breaker bar to get it undone, might just be because i'm a skinny git!

You also need a ball joint splitter to get the track rod ends off the hubs.

atilla101uk · Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:54 pm Post subject:

Cheers for the info m8, i think i have a breaker bar somewhere and a m8 has a ball joint splitter

hiten · Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 7:03 pm Post subject:

where do i get them from with going to SEAT and at the cheapest price?

atilla101uk · Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 2:29 am Post subject:

Get them from badger5 I think it is www.badger5.com

madcat01 · Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 6:48 am Post subject:

IMreading the posts with intrest as its the way i want to go.
here is the badger add,can anyone do it a lot cheaper??
QOUTES PLEASE
thanks

Badger5 Ltd can now offer on a limited supply basis a Superbly Priced, amazing Brembo 4-Pot caliper disk and brake upgrade to owners of Seat Ibiza Cupras and Golf 2 derivatives. This upgrade kit comprises a Pair of 305x28 disks, Caliper Carriers, Brembo 4-Pot calipers, pads, hydraulic hoses (call to confirm spec)and all associated mounting hardware and instructions. Minimum wheel diameter requirement is 7"x16" ET35, 4x100. Call for latest prices from £450 forthe complete kit + carriage

Andrew Ensom · Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 8:40 am Post subject:

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I can supply the Seat Brembos for £375 delivered, includes everything but the flexible hoses.

I did post that right back near the start of the thread.

madcat01 · Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 3:25 pm Post subject:

OUCH ,MUST READ SLOWER

hiten · Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 9:10 pm Post subject:

i bout them 2day 4 £450 inc vat and p+P! from stealth but i needed them for 2morr!

Polo Classic · Polo Joined: 08 Jun 2001 Posts: 234 Location: Norway

They even fit under 15's

According to Compomitive the 7-15 MO ET 35 (MO1572)will fit over the Cupra Brembo's

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Andrew Ensom · Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:22 am Post subject:

I doubt it!

You will get 15" wheels over the normal Cupra brakes, which are basically just 280mm G60 brakes painted red.

I dont think they will go over the Cupra R Brembos, as they are huge.
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Altern8 · Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 12:44 pm Post subject:

they brembos are a minimum of 16's only
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Polo Classic · Polo Joined: 08 Jun 2001 Posts: 234 Location: Norway

According to Compomotive they will fit. I have sent them the relevant measurement with the help of Badger5. Look here

very sorry we forgot to mention MO1572 et35 or if you require lower we would
need to check our MO1570 et12>25

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Subject: RE: Compomotive rims for 305*28 Brembo brakes (As fitted to
Seat Cupra R)

Is all offsets OK? Or any specific offsets we stay away from?

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Thanks for the further info

our 7 x 15 MO would be the best option to clear these brakes

we do have a dealer in Norway who will be pleased to quote prices

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A7_UFO · Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject:

My 15" MO's fit over my 305mm Brembos but you have to go for 4 x 100 15" x 7" ET20. You will have to put the wheel weights away from the inside edge of the rim because the caliper is that close.
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Depending on what suspension you are running, you will probably have to go for G60 arches to clear the tyres.
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Chris H · Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject:

yup. as said, 15" MO's will fit. You need 38mm from the hub to the rear of the spoke to clear the caliper. I have to run 23mm spacers to get the clearance with my 18" Lensos.

Mike lowrie · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject:

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I can supply the Seat Brembos for £375 delivered, includes everything but the flexible hoses.

Hey. will these fit the mk3 VR6 if so wat does the kit have in it
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